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Please reply to this comment with an explanation about how this post fits r/LeopardsAteMyFace and have an excellent day!

Revel in the schadenfreude anytime someone has a sad because they're suffering consequences from something they voted for or supported or wanted to impose on other people.

LBJsPNS

7.3k points

3 days ago

LBJsPNS

7.3k points

3 days ago

These fucking idiots thought they could keep the bigots and religious crazies under control.

AmaResNovae

3.6k points

3 days ago

AmaResNovae

3.6k points

3 days ago

Conservatives always act like they can keep reactionaries on a leash, but it always blows up their face. At some point they should get the hint.

termanader

1.8k points

3 days ago

termanader

1.8k points

3 days ago

Hasn't history taught us the lesson that reactionaries and extremists can not be controlled or leashed like normal?

ripleyclone8

1.1k points

3 days ago

ripleyclone8

1.1k points

3 days ago

It’s almost like they’re too extreme, or something!

UnwashedApple

205 points

3 days ago

Sure does!

RobotPreacher

195 points

3 days ago

When you awaken a monster, you must then fight it, who would have thought?

Sardonnicus

150 points

3 days ago

Sardonnicus

150 points

3 days ago

BUT THE MONSTER ISN'T SUPPOSED TO ATTACC US?!?!?! WE WERE THE ONES WHO WOKE IT UP!!!!

CaseyG

79 points

3 days ago

CaseyG

79 points

3 days ago

Have these guys never seen even a single horror movie? Or read anything by Lovecraft? Or read history?

Sardonnicus

87 points

3 days ago

Read? History? Learn lessons? Ha, what do you think?

Dawk320

64 points

3 days ago

Dawk320

64 points

3 days ago

“Those who ignore the lessons of history are granted the awesome ability to witness them firsthand every time” or something to that effect.

cbslinger

39 points

3 days ago

cbslinger

39 points

3 days ago

I mean, if you’re talking about the smart/manipulative republicans - the ones with ivy leagues, I’d say it’s more akin to making a deal with a devil you’re just sure you can outsmart this time. It’s a really, really classic error of greedy and prideful people.

AgtSquirtle007

30 points

3 days ago

How could they have known that the monsters they created would turn on them? It’s not like all of history and literature is filled with cautionary examples, and that these examples are among the most frequently employed tropes in visual media so the lessons are available even to those who can’t or won’t read.

suicidaleggroll

138 points

3 days ago

Yep - which is why the GOP should stop supporting, encouraging, and pandering to them.

fullblownwateraddict

310 points

3 days ago*

They won't, because they need their votes. Most (nearly all) moderate conservatives aren't going to vote left-wing as the gap between left and right is getting pretty wide, so courting the crazies and the far-right is a low-risk investment to maintain power.

Plus it turns out that a lot of conservatives hold really shitty social views. Not surprising, especially in the US, since the modern version of the Republican Party is the party that formed in opposition to the civil rights movement. They courted all the Southern Democrats that were dissatisfied with the federal Democrats passing civil rights legislation, and the modern Republican Party was born.

And the amount of Canadian conservatives that buy into American conservative bullshit is absolutely mind-blowing. And the Reaganomics. And abortion became a conservative issue to gain Christian votes. And the climate change denial. Conservatives are a fucking mess.

djlewt

212 points

3 days ago

djlewt

212 points

3 days ago

There is no major left wing anything. You're talking about dems, that's the center right.

JagmeetSingh2

91 points

3 days ago

people who think the opposite would have their mind blown if they realized the democrats would be considered a right wing party anywhere else in the western world

Frys100thCupofCoffee

17 points

3 days ago

Out of curiosity, what would the U.S. right-wing party be considered anywhere else in the western world?

Skylis

68 points

3 days ago

Skylis

68 points

3 days ago

Fascists that attempted an armed coup

Frys100thCupofCoffee

28 points

3 days ago

Sounds pretty spot-on.

Hopalongtom

17 points

3 days ago

Violent extremists who've been given governmental legitimacy!

sushisection

30 points

3 days ago

but they wont because, lol, they make up most of their voting base.

UnwashedApple

65 points

3 days ago

Define "Normal"

bordss

117 points

3 days ago

bordss

117 points

3 days ago

Exactly. This IS normal behaviour for these type of actors.

AerThreepwood

35 points

3 days ago

Somebody should have a word with SAG about them.

UnwashedApple

16 points

3 days ago

All the worlds a stage!

StupidizeMe

49 points

3 days ago

Define "Normal" and define "Violence."

Trump supporters and Q-Anons live inside their own warped paradigm.

IrrelevantMontgomery

20 points

3 days ago

you spell it with a q and wrap it in tin foil

LawBird33101

112 points

3 days ago

We really should have learned our lesson with the Taliban.

sushisection

253 points

3 days ago

the Yall Qaeda memes and comparisons to fundamentalist christians were not just jokes.

SpiritMountain

216 points

3 days ago

Conservatism is very reactionary. At least in America and this day and age for the past few decades. It is just the kettle calling the pot black

LawBird33101

260 points

3 days ago

It's always been reactionary, it's literal only job is to react in opposition to fundamental change.

Conservatism as an ideology was an anti-Republic mindset that strived to maintain the social stratification and traditional moral order in the transition to Democracy.

There was never an instance where it was intended to be anything but a roadblock to societal change.

Unfortunately, they've graduated to the Regressive stage. They now think the world has changed too much, and it's time to set things back to when America was "great."

Last time they adopted this mindset we fought the bloodiest per capita war we've ever been involved in, and it wasn't even against one of the other nations that could benefit from us failing.

sushisection

131 points

3 days ago

its always been reactionary and its always been steered by top-down public figures of authority rather than by bottom-up individual critical thinking.

I swear, if Trump told these people that standing on one leg would keep the gay away, we would see millions of people casually standing on one leg just because they were told to do so by the figure of authority they trust. Its no different than islamist extremists telling young boys to strap bombs to their chests to enter paradise, and thats the scary thing to me about all this... they could easily tell their horde of far right extremists to siege government buildings, commit acts of violence, to go fight in wars etc.

MauPow

77 points

3 days ago

MauPow

77 points

3 days ago

they could easily tell their horde of far right extremists to siege government buildings, commit acts of violence

Not sure if you were watching the news on January 6th...

dept_of_silly_walks

33 points

3 days ago

That’s just it - if that’s what happens when you incite in a vague way, how ugly does it get when you send them with a crystal clear directive?

eastbayweird

95 points

3 days ago

You ever see that documentary jesus camp?

I have no doubt that we could see american suicide bombers coming out of places like that in the next decade. If not suicide bombers then they'll unleash them as 'soldiers for God' to commit atrocities against minorities, LGBTQ people, etc.

JTibbs

109 points

3 days ago

JTibbs

109 points

3 days ago

Wont be so much suicide bombers as suicide gunmen. Go in and try to shoot as many people as they can and then wither escape or get shot by police.

Most would probably be taken in peacfully by police and bought mcdonalds for dinner though, going by precedent.

All these radical christian fundamentalists convinced the left is the antichrist, Nd they have a duty to ‘spread the word of god’ or ‘punish the wicked’ etc... and tons of them are part of those terrorist militia groups.

Mediocremon

45 points

3 days ago

I went to some of those camps. Even at 11 I knew this shit was fucked. My Mum refused to believe me that it was a goddamn cult. She didn't disbelieve me about what went on, but wouldn't accept what it was either. Thankfully they never made me go back, once I objected.

My pastor bought a stolen ps2 off my uncle and told us his kids could play GTA because he had cheats to turn the violence off. We dipped entirely after that.

Mediocratic_Oath

27 points

3 days ago

God that documentary was chilling. I'll never forget that one lady who justified how they were abusing and manipulating the kids by essentially saying that the only way to stop a bad guy with child soldiers is a good guy with child soldiers.

SmytheOrdo

25 points

3 days ago

Yeah, younger generations are more liberal, but I worry about the types of people I grew up around being an Evangelical kid during the Bush and Obama years. A lot of them never changed much into adulthood and are more radical now.

SyntheticReality42

31 points

3 days ago

"...far right extremists to siege government buildings, commit acts of violence..."

Hmmmmmm

JebediahKerman3999

27 points

3 days ago

they could easily tell their horde of far right extremists to siege government buildings, commit acts of violence, to go fight in wars etc.

They could? They did and if you want to see what's going on r/capitolconsequences

tmac2097

85 points

3 days ago

tmac2097

85 points

3 days ago

Except in this case the kettle prefers to use the N word

santaliqueur

31 points

3 days ago

“They call each other that so they prefer I call them that as well”

  • Conservative logic, probably

MageOfOz

82 points

3 days ago

MageOfOz

82 points

3 days ago

*Conservatives always act as if the direct consequences of their actions are in no way their fault.

MauPow

51 points

3 days ago

MauPow

51 points

3 days ago

Hence, cancel culture.

Crying Cancel Culture is really just DARVO. Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender.

seabassseabreeze

27 points

3 days ago

Yup. I can write this article in one sentence: "Our party has become the thing we thought we were pretending it was."

JIG1017

42 points

3 days ago

JIG1017

42 points

3 days ago

Probably because there's no distinction between conservatives and reactionaries anymore.

PlatypusHashFarm

33 points

3 days ago

Never was.

GamblingMan420

13 points

3 days ago

I mean they kind of have. At least, they’ve been able to shield themselves from any responsibility of their actions. Since Goldwater, the conservatives have tried their damndest to appeal to nationalist bigots. Yet for some reason, the left has gone too far for making any sort of comparison of the modern GOP to radical right wing movements.

CubistChameleon

409 points

3 days ago

I really don't like willy-nilly Nazi comparisons, but for historic reference: The DNVP (German Nationalist People's Party) officials that agreed to Hitler becoming chancellor infamously said "within three months we'll have him up against the wall so tightly he'll squeak". They were wrong.

Joss_Card

202 points

3 days ago

Joss_Card

202 points

3 days ago

The only thing the right loves more than punishing undesirables is a charismatic leader. Especially when a lot of people on the right also think that the right-wing politicians are also the enemy because "they're too weak" to hold office.

pimppapy

275 points

3 days ago

pimppapy

275 points

3 days ago

Not in a million years would I have thought that the verbal diarrhea coming out of Trumps mouth would be considered charismatic

Joss_Card

183 points

3 days ago

Joss_Card

183 points

3 days ago

Me either, but the proof is in the QAnon pudding: they love their leader who can't string a coherent sentence together and it's somehow proof that he's far more intelligent than you or me.

It reminds me of growing up in the Mormon Church, TBH. Just tell people what they want to hear or what they expect to hear, and call them special and better than average because they are listening to you and not the liars outside. You absolutely cannot trust any news or information that comes from someone else. It's malicious lies and fake news.

Mediocratic_Oath

59 points

3 days ago

The parallels between Mormon cultishness and right-wing cultishness are uncanny. It's so disheartening to see emotional manipulation on such a grand scale.

doobiehowserMN

75 points

3 days ago

That would be because Mormonism is a right wing cult.

Mediocratic_Oath

66 points

3 days ago

It's American Exceptionalism dialed up to eleven and deep-fried in conservatism.

MrGulio

58 points

3 days ago

MrGulio

58 points

3 days ago

It's charismatic if you value compete appeals to emotion. Also remember that conservatives have been driving an anti-intellectual narrative for decades.

cowvin

49 points

3 days ago

cowvin

49 points

3 days ago

It's more or less hypnotic to his followers. They just listen to him rambling and occasionally he hits the points they want to hear. They get that dopamine hit and then go back into their mental daze.

SaffellBot

29 points

3 days ago

It's kind of interesting, really. Trump openly says he just says shit in rallies. Eventually he says words people clap for, then he says more of that stuff.

I suppose it's really an ancient tactic that we failed to guard against with our public education system.

ValhallaGo

24 points

3 days ago

A lot of charisma is just taking to people in the way they want to be spoken to.

The trump crowd like being told they’re the victims. Why? Everyone has been seeing hard times over the last 20 years, but it’s a little easier to hear that you’ve been wronged instead of someone pointing out that other people have been left out for longer.

Trump told them they were victims, he was strong and would help them. He gave them enemies to look down on (minorities and “the left”) and reinforced existing biases. Then to top it off, he conditioned them to reject anything they didn’t want to hear.

EvilTomte

32 points

3 days ago

EvilTomte

32 points

3 days ago

I've come to the conclusion that it's not so much about the content of the speech but more about the way it's presented.

As long as he appeals to them constantly, by telling them how great they are, how unfairly they've been treated, and what a great threat [insert: immigrants, liberals or wind power] is, he's got them hooked. Especially if they're all coming for their guns while at it.

jmastaock

17 points

3 days ago

jmastaock

17 points

3 days ago

The fact that he talks like a narcissistic moron is exactly what makes him charismatic, you just aren't who he is trying to charm

netheroth

68 points

3 days ago

netheroth

68 points

3 days ago

Fascism

Sex

Cocaine

Things you cannot have "just a little bit" of.

S4Baumer

37 points

3 days ago

S4Baumer

37 points

3 days ago

I would have told you that my ex disproved this, but it turns out that she does not.

trumpsiranwar

105 points

3 days ago

They did, for decades. Then trump came along and kicked over their carefully manage wasp nest of hate. You can't herd angry wasps.

FargusDingus

49 points

3 days ago

They thought that the hateful were too lazy or too small to be a danger. All the sudden there was a guy to grow them and to motivate them. It got out of hand.

Radiant-Spren

29 points

3 days ago

They didn’t learn their lesson when they let the “tea party” in, I doubt they’ll learn their lesson with magats either.

somguy9

38 points

3 days ago*

somguy9

38 points

3 days ago*

No, they absolutely realized the seeds they were planting. Anyone with even a quarter of a brain can see the problems in the making if you appease these freaks.

However, having a brain does not mean they aren’t disgustingly negligent. They realized that it is a problem, but only a problem tomorrow. Today, it riles up and increases the size of your base, so hell yeah I’m sowing this shit!

Reaping? What’s that? I already booked my resignation from public servitude in a nice, comfy board position at Big Oil/Pharma/Pillow or Murdoch Media, so that shit ain’t my problem.

So, in short, it’s just an extension of the “fuck you, got mine” mentality that is at this stage the only thing the Republican party concretely stands for. As in, the only thing that they don’t even bother hiding through crypto-fascist rhetoric and propaganda.

gdsmithtx

44 points

3 days ago

gdsmithtx

44 points

3 days ago

Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them. ― Barry Goldwater

Iamafillintheblank

290 points

3 days ago

Colloquially referred to as Rebumpkins and Rebiblicans. The Replutocrat branch of the party are dumbfounded that their minions were brainwashed into an even more deranged and dangerous ideology.

Like duh, once you’ve been indoctrinated into a cult it’s even easier to flow the slippery slope to an even crazier one.

baxtersbuddy1[S]

251 points

3 days ago

I always liked to call them Talibangelicals

antoinewhitewalker

112 points

3 days ago

Since 1/6, I have been using McVeightriots.

jinkinson

57 points

3 days ago

jinkinson

57 points

3 days ago

I like to call them "Y'all Qaeda" or "White ISIS".

CitrusLizard

45 points

3 days ago

Vanilla ISIS

screech_owl_kachina

23 points

3 days ago

Remember when they received so much backlash about police brutality from the right wing in the 90s over Ruby Ridge and Waco, to the point of blowing up an entire federal building over it, and they actually listened and stopped doing that so much?

Iamafillintheblank

40 points

3 days ago

Nice portmanteau!

Coupon_Ninja

18 points

3 days ago

TIL portmanteau means word blending. Thanks!

DunkingDognuts

14 points

3 days ago

Yes, it pairs nicely with an aged Camembert

Jackpot777

37 points

3 days ago

Y'all Q-aeda

pHitzy

20 points

3 days ago

pHitzy

20 points

3 days ago

I like Yee-hawwdi.

Altheron86

13 points

3 days ago

The classic Meal Team Six

The8675309thElement

12 points

3 days ago

I've also heard "Vanilla ISIS."

wearethedeadofnight

35 points

3 days ago

I’m fond of RepubliQan, myself.

Dnny10bns

23 points

3 days ago

Dnny10bns

23 points

3 days ago

I see 'RepubliQans' on here the other day. Thought that was brilliant. Can't credit because I can't remember the poster.

Talidel

24 points

3 days ago

Talidel

24 points

3 days ago

Almost as if having a two party system isn't appropriate for 328 million people.

Northman67

39 points

3 days ago

And let's not forget that they did it entirely to keep power and money flowing in the directions they want.

msut77

35 points

3 days ago

msut77

35 points

3 days ago

1930s Germany called

WDoE

30 points

3 days ago

WDoE

30 points

3 days ago

"Let's create multiple generations of extremists and hope they never gain real power in the party!"

Fucking idiots. In 10 years, there will be no 'old guard' left. It's fucking scary. Instead of evil people peddling lies to keep power, we'll have 100% of the party believing in insane conspiracy theories, creating a self perpetuating chaos machine.

Lord_Mayor_of_D-town

18 points

3 days ago*

They were able to with wink, wink, nudge, nudge dogwhistles since Nixon/Atwater but now tRump opened Pandora's Box with his full throated hatred.

EgberetSouse

15 points

3 days ago

They need the votes but dont want the input

ThatFlyingScotsman

15 points

3 days ago

I genuinely believe the American political class is so divorced from reality that they don’t actually believe that the words they use have any substantial influence over citizens. They’ve become so integrated into political theatrics that the idea of words having meaning and influence has simply stopped existing for them.

MagicJasoni

14 points

3 days ago

To be fair, that's many (though not all, of course) of who is currently voting for them, and they have to gerrymander the shit out of their districts just to get that portion of the vote.

MageOfOz

23 points

3 days ago

MageOfOz

23 points

3 days ago

Not only that, they spent 30 years cutting their education and feeding them nonsensical and hysterical propaganda. Now they wonder why their base are a bunch of shit-chucking apes?

UnwashedApple

11 points

3 days ago

No, it never even occurred to them they may get "violent".

KyliaQuilor

482 points

3 days ago

KyliaQuilor

482 points

3 days ago

Pump the leopard up with steroids for years, terrify it and then unlock the cage door and be surprised when it rips off everyone's face.

hemirollin

47 points

3 days ago

Tiger King 2: Pumped up leopard bogaloo?

lemonpartyorganizer

13 points

3 days ago

With double the meth and gay sex as the original.

jojackmcgurk

2.7k points

3 days ago

jojackmcgurk

2.7k points

3 days ago

"At least in our neighborhood, we can now see that a number of these newly enlisted Republicans appear to have come to the GOP not for the ideology or the philosophy, but for the signs, the flags and, the fight,"

The GOP ideology--for years--has been "government doesn't work." And the philosophy has been "we're gonna do everything we can to make it not work so we can blame the libs"

I don't have an ounce of sympathy and hope the party tears itself apart.

HowardSternsPenis2

672 points

3 days ago

hope the party tears itself apart.

That would be good, but what if enough decide to stay, and they win elections? Or come close enough that threats and intimidation can swing one? Our democracy may NEED the GOP to split. If polling places become like abortion clinics we have a real problem.

ShouldersofGiants100

393 points

3 days ago

This is the concern I have. Anyone who was willing to bail on the Republicans did so by 2018. Anyone left has effectively announced they will vote for literally anything other than a Democrat. There is no fracture possible, because to create a divide, a moderate party would need voters who are willing to oppose radicals.

The best hope for change is massive federal reform to ensure that voter suppression is reduced, as that would bring a number of red states into play—but even that is far from a sure thing and would likely take a decade to pay dividends.

inertiatic_espn

190 points

3 days ago

Saw a poll that said 60% of Republicans believe there needs to be a third party. That's up about 30% since November. I think the divide in the party is deeper than you're giving it credit for. Not that I'm defending them or anything.

Squally160

265 points

3 days ago

Squally160

265 points

3 days ago

That is shit they say to make themselves feel better. 100% of them will vote straight R no matter what.

ADequalsBITCH

84 points

3 days ago

Then form a new party against abortion, pro-gun, anti-LGBTQ. Those are the only issues that actually matter to the vast majority of republican voters anyway. Throw in some racist dog whistle shit too.

Doesn't matter if you actually believe in it, or have a plan to accomplish anything. You'll get the votes regardless, particularly with a platform of "we're not rich corrupt assholes, unlike the GOP", and you'll split the conservative vote between the majority of conservatives and the sunk cost Trumpists, ensuring that neither ever come to power.

subnero

51 points

3 days ago

subnero

51 points

3 days ago

Yeah again, how can I fuck over people I hate is the only platform of Republicans

ADequalsBITCH

56 points

3 days ago

"Vote for me, I'll hurt anybody you don't like! Your neighbor Trent with the sick-ass pool that you're jealous of? I'll change zoning regulations so he'll have to demolish it! That dude on the bus that cut in line and stole your seat? I'll sign an executive order to ensure those people can't get bus passes! Your grandma didn't give you the last slice of turkey on Thanksgiving? FUCK THE ELDERLY, I'm cutting social security!"

MAKE AMERICA PETTY AGAIN

ADequalsBITCH for President 2024

IrrelevantMontgomery

77 points

3 days ago

Saw a poll that said 60% of Republicans believe there needs to be a third party.

Because traditional republicans want the crazies to go, and Qpublicans want to kick out the rhinos. Hence the plurality.

I seriously doubt the conservatives are all pulling in the same direction right now. ...unless you call chasing your own racist tail pulling in the same direction.

InnocentSkiesAbove

38 points

3 days ago

If there is a split, the traditional GOP will find out they are the minority. The Q MAGA Trump idiots are the majority of Republicans.

IrrelevantMontgomery

13 points

3 days ago

from what I've seen I'd agree with that too. If traditional "don't ask don't tell" republicans had any sway...I think the crazy takeover of the party would have been interrupted by now.

But when you hear any of them talk...they have no clue. They sound like a temporarily interrupted inevitable majority. I don't think they can see the rug was ripped out from underneath them, and it's not getting put back.

InnocentSkiesAbove

19 points

3 days ago

They sound like a temporarily interrupted inevitable majority. I don't think they can see the rug was ripped out from underneath them, and it's not getting put back.

Exactly right. Trump controls the apparatus of the GOP and that is because the Red Hats outnumber traditional Republicans.

Over 3/4 of Republicans still believe the same lie that sparked the Spray Tan Putsch: widespread voter fraud helped Biden beat Trump.

ShouldersofGiants100

22 points

3 days ago*

How many of those people are ones who think that that hypothetical third party would be all the "socialists" splitting off from the Democrats or the "RINOs" being ejected by the "real patriots"? Look at Trump's approval rating among the GOP—these people don't want Trumpism gone, they think its dissenters are the only reason Trump isn't still in office. They also genuinely seem to believe that loyalty matters more than the actual number of votes they get.

TheFeshy

168 points

3 days ago

TheFeshy

168 points

3 days ago

appear to have come to the GOP not for the ideology or the philosophy, but for the signs, the flags and, the fight,"

"There aren't enough people joining for our well thought out platform!" - the party that voted not to even bother making a party platform last year.

It's hard to get more LAMF than that.

ColtranesGhost

43 points

3 days ago

the party that voted not to even bother making a party platform last year.

when your leader has no actual belief system and just says whatever suits him best in the moment it's sort of hard to come up with a cohesive set of beliefs that you can adhere to for any period of time.

IceDiarrhea

71 points

3 days ago

We're going to prove that government doesn't work by breaking it until it doesn't work

FargusDingus

55 points

3 days ago

I have no sympathy for them. But I'm really worried about who that party is becoming. From "government doesn't work and we'll prove it," it is now "we'll make government work but only for people that look and think like me."

[deleted]

48 points

3 days ago

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48 points

3 days ago

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Various-Inflation778

21 points

3 days ago

Everyone will think you’re “just as bad as them” for saying this, but the sad fact of the matter is your absolutely right. You can reason with this sort of hate, and it only responds to a bigger badder bully, which is what the opposing force has to become or die trying.

BryanIndigo

1.1k points

3 days ago

BryanIndigo

1.1k points

3 days ago

Did they just now find out?

pegothejerk

689 points

3 days ago

pegothejerk

689 points

3 days ago

Nah, they just found out that they themselves aren't safe from the intentional sowing of chaos, lies, disingenuous conspiracy theory, and general distrust of establishments/experts.

racerplume

424 points

3 days ago*

racerplume

424 points

3 days ago*

Yep. The Establishment were all too happy to have the crazies on their side all hopped up on fear of gays, racist hatred and bonkers conspiracy theories.

But those crazies were just supposed to vote the right way - to make rich people richer. Once they started running for office, storming buildings and killing people, they got a little inconvenient.

But the Republican Establishment will not renounce them, even as the crazies radicalize into full-blown fascist terrorists. Because nothing is more important to them than throwing more gold onto their offshore hoards.

maddscientist

206 points

3 days ago

Also because Republicans now realize that they have to keep all these crazy people on their side, otherwise they'll become a minority party very quickly

ImJustHere4theMoons

210 points

3 days ago

If there's one thing that terrifies Republicans to their core it's being treated like a minority.

KoboldCleric

96 points

3 days ago

Specificly, how they treat a minority.

Castun

72 points

3 days ago

Castun

72 points

3 days ago

To them, there is no other way to treat a minority, which is why they're so afraid.

Alarid

88 points

3 days ago

Alarid

88 points

3 days ago

Weird I wonder why they're afraid of becoming minorities in America. Is it bad or something?

ANAL_GAPER_8000

63 points

3 days ago

Funny how they're the victims but also the secret moral majority.

And I love when these idiots post pictures of the red sea on election maps. They see it and think that the pockets of blue in cities and on the coast and think all that red means they're the TRUE Americans. Even though the red is mostly farmland, desert, mountains, and forests with very low population density. Cities drive the economy and places like LA and NYC are multi-ethnic, cultural icons that the entire world knows. Wyoming has a population 1/20 the size of NYC but sure, all that empty land is "real America". Kiss my ass.

Ellikichi

15 points

3 days ago

Ellikichi

15 points

3 days ago

boopadoop_johnson

15 points

3 days ago

Of course it's the real America, it's devoid of life and culture /s

stolid_agnostic

52 points

3 days ago

This is the truth. They thought that they could sit in their mansions and vote on bills to maintain their privilege, while whipping up an uneducated mass and that it would only affect other people. This is the same sort of short-sightedness that creates real estate and stock market bubbles.

Oreganoian

90 points

3 days ago

Nah, a bunch of long time republicans said that if trump won(because they pandered to these conspiracy folks) they would lose control of the party. Graham, Cruz, Mcconnell all said similar things.

This was 5 or 6 years ago. Nobody in the GOP should be surprised by this.

selicos

50 points

3 days ago

selicos

50 points

3 days ago

Graham said we could quote him, IIRC.

BloodyFable

39 points

3 days ago

Fuck Around

> Find out

You are here

goddamnzilla

331 points

3 days ago

That was the tea party platform for over a decade.

Fuck the GOP.

DrunkyMcStumbles

125 points

3 days ago

Nixon yelling "law and order", Reagan and the Southern Strategy, Gingrich and his contrasting words...this shit has been brewing for decades

BanditaIncognita

108 points

3 days ago

In the early 80s or late 70s christian dominionists published a list of goals. Each goal related to infiltrating our government. They have accomplished nearly all of the stated goals.

Mike Pence is a dominionist.

They want us to live in a christian theocracy. They believe that they are special and chosen by god. They tacitly encourage domestic terrorism that furthers their goals. Christian fundamentalists are a huge danger to functioning society. They don't want equality. They want theocracy. They are cut from the same cloth as islamic terrorists.

DrunkyMcStumbles

64 points

3 days ago

I've tried to warn people about this. The far right evangelicals used to be pretty isolated. They maintained their own towns that time forgot and mostly stayed out of national politics. They had radio and early TV, but they generally stayed in their lane. That changed with the Civil Rights movement.

Suddenly, they weren't allowed to govern themselves as they saw fit. They now felt the need to get involved in national politics. They even had a platform to get out their message. They just needed someone to let them in.

Enter the Republicans. On the ropes after Watergate and losing influence, they needed a new base to rally and a way to take advantage of an over all distrust of government (which they were largely responsible for). The evangelicals brought a new base that they could make sure comes out for every election from president down to dog catcher and a ready network for their exclusive messaging. Republicans gave them a seat at the political table.

And thus, a match made in hell. Now, when you oppose Republican policies or candidates, you oppose God Himself. And you hate America and the troops. At this point, Republicans don't even have identifiable policies or philosophy. They just accumulate power and exclude "the others".

DevelopedDevelopment

15 points

3 days ago

Sounds like we need to go after the influence of Christianity. Dilute the value of the churchs, and really work to bring back the separation of church and state.

Like churches can be good as community centers but there's some really hateful churches out there that are just a bad influence on the country as a whole.

DrunkyMcStumbles

9 points

3 days ago

It's such a third rail. Many if these preachers are openly breaking the laws about religious and charitable organizations not being involved in politics.

ViolentTaintAssault

287 points

3 days ago

The evolution of the GOP into that of an ultrafundamentalist right wing theocratic cult so closely mirrors the rise of groups like the Taliban that there's no possible way they couldn't have seen this coming.

BreakingGaia

132 points

3 days ago*

But then you have to take into account their true racist beliefs. It could never happen to americans because americans are far superior to those desert savages. /s

I'd believe 100% they never saw it coming because they think white, religious people are god's chosen people. Their pastor told them so.

epigeneticjoe

96 points

3 days ago

I'm from CA. Father is Middle Eastern, Mother is Asian.

I did a postdoc at St Jude I Memphis, TN 12-16. When I would compare middle eastern religious zealots to American Nationalist religious zealots, people lost their GODDAMN MINDS.

It's fucking sad. They're not the same, but what they're selling sure does rhyme.

BreakingGaia

30 points

3 days ago

Yeah, it's unfortunately because they believe in it so it's right. Most christian religions teach children that only theirs is the true religion/god and they should never question it, lest they be damned to hell. It's horrible and most people become adults holding several contradicting beliefs and never question any of it.

These are the people it is so easy to radicalize. You can youtube any one of these crazy people talking about numerology and astrology and looking at pictures and finding cryptic messages in logos that confirm their own biases. Then they look at normal people and think we're not enlightened. Jesus doesn't favor us. No amount of logic will get through to them.

epigeneticjoe

22 points

3 days ago

It's like, critical thinking skills and questioning authority was viewed as a terrible thing.

sushisection

29 points

3 days ago

meanwhile the rest of us saw it coming and used yall qaeda memes to mock it.

ShouldersofGiants100

48 points

3 days ago

They thought that they would always hold the leash—and honestly, before the internet, they were probably right. When all your voters get their information from FOX and FOX says what you want them to say, you can steer them at will. The problem was that the internet came, these people broke out of the GOP-approved bubble—and promptly ran hard to the right and decided that FOX was basically communist. There's a reason why the rise of the radicals within the mainstream GOP (the Tea Party being the earliest manifestation) coincided with the time boomers started flocking hard to social media.

gnurdette

1k points

3 days ago

gnurdette

1k points

3 days ago

Opposes violence as a means to any political end

It most certainly does not. As the Trumpists love to boast, the party of McCain and Romney is dead.

Tom_Brokaw_is_a_Punk

560 points

3 days ago

McCain's 2008 run helped to stoke this bullshit in the first place. He may have tried to dampen the worst impulses of his party, but he caved on most of it because he thought it'd win him the election.

captcha_got_you

513 points

3 days ago

Agreed. Palin was the forerunner and mold of the current lot of crazies.

IceDiarrhea

283 points

3 days ago

IceDiarrhea

283 points

3 days ago

Yes the selection of Palin as his veep was the worst possible move. He could have chosen a brainless, gray-colored conservative wallflower like Mike Pence and people would have voted the McCain ticket more than they did, honestly. Palin drew a lot of crazies but they were going to vote R no matter what already. McCain probably lost a lot of the alleged swing vote because of Palin

Tykuhn42

138 points

3 days ago

Tykuhn42

138 points

3 days ago

Palin was the high risk high reward pick. If they just kept her quiet it would've been very close, but they decided to let her speak and reveal that she knew nothing

YddishMcSquidish

77 points

3 days ago

"Which publications do you read?"

"All of them"

Vote_for_asteroid

54 points

3 days ago

All this talk about Palin got me thinking about Michele Bachmann for some reason. Smdh. Palin Bachmann 2024! The dynamic duo lmao

benk4

18 points

3 days ago

benk4

18 points

3 days ago

I think he wanted a woman to counter the "old white man ticket" charge. Idk why he picked her though. Did he even talk to her first?

I was living in CT at the time and thought our governor Jodi Rell would have been a good pick for him. She was probably just too moderate though, being a pro-choice Republican and all.

IceDiarrhea

11 points

3 days ago

I think McCain was pro-choice (at least personally, not sure about his voting record) and he himself was fairly moderate. The irony is he could have taken the party in a more moderate direction but screwed it by choosing Palin and choosing to appeal to those people.

Boomslangalang

33 points

3 days ago

Fortunately, I think she also foreshadows Trumps future in her own. i.e a very shiny object, a huge cult pf personality but at heart: a quitter, a loser, inept and corrupt and now doing sleazy late nigh infomercials for a buck.

bad-monkey

22 points

3 days ago

LOL someone needs to LAMF Steve Schmidt lol

SirDigbyChknCaesar

87 points

3 days ago

McCain was quite moderate before his campaign where he just caved to all the religious and conservative extremists. It was sad to see.

racerplume

29 points

3 days ago

I was saddened too. I really liked him prior to 2008. Then he made a deal with the devil to excite the racists in the Republican political base to win the election, throwing them a bone every now and then. But the devil screwed McCain over and kept his soul while he lost the election anyway.

FargusDingus

28 points

3 days ago

Pre-2008 McCain was at least reasonable and someone who you could respectfully disagree with, he would also cross lines to do good work. That was not the same man who ran for president.

Tom_Brokaw_is_a_Punk

16 points

3 days ago

I think the 2000 primaries broke him. His fellow Republicans were not kind to him, especially with regards to his military service

Boomslangalang

26 points

3 days ago

I don't think you can call someone who voted with Trump 90% of the time 'a moderate'. Mccain had some virtues i'm just not sure those out weigh the negatives. I guess you could call him an old school Republican in that he believed in - or claimed to believe in - honor, decency, principles, etc.

mdp300

35 points

3 days ago*

mdp300

35 points

3 days ago*

He was my favorite Republican candidate in 2000. I still probably would have voted for Gore if I could (I wasn't 28 18 yet anyway) but he was the least bad one.

moose2332

11 points

3 days ago

moose2332

11 points

3 days ago

This shit started with Goldwater winking and nudging at wanting to overturn the Civil Rights Act without saying it out loud

herbys

21 points

3 days ago

herbys

21 points

3 days ago

And Reagan, and Bush, and every Republican of the past. It's no longer about ideology, it's now a party of slogans.

santaliqueur

9 points

3 days ago

The party of Reagan is very alive. Just ask Jesus.

cdiddy19

219 points

3 days ago

cdiddy19

219 points

3 days ago

"4 out of 10 republicans think political violence is ok"

That's a frightening number, and does a lot to explain the insurrection

CalvinsStuffedTiger

29 points

3 days ago

“4 out of 10 republicans are either illiterate, or sincerely believe that terrorism is only terrorism if the person has brown skin color”

What a sad state of affairs

HowardSternsPenis2

76 points

3 days ago

Stay positive and know that that is only roughly 20% of voting Americans and probably 7% of all Americans. It is scary though. 250 years of America is close to ending because of people who claim love America more than everybody else.

cdiddy19

54 points

3 days ago

cdiddy19

54 points

3 days ago

We narrowly avoided the first insurrection... But with accountability I'm afraid it's just a matter of time.

What does give me hope is seeing the young generations like the greta thunebergs and unfortunately the school shooting survivors, they seem to be determined to make this place better...

I'll keep voting for universal healthcare, livable wages, anti gerrymandering etc, but I wish the right wouldn't keep pushing us so far right and now even more than before so violent

brisketandbeans

19 points

3 days ago

7% is a lot.

zeenzee

25 points

3 days ago

zeenzee

25 points

3 days ago

7% of our population is approximately 23 million people.

Responsenotfound

13 points

3 days ago

Honestly to wage a war of Destruction they really only need 50-100k willing to commit to an insurgency. I don't think people realize how fragile our systems are nowadays.

Flatened-Earther

112 points

3 days ago

The GOP is wondering why it's members want death to America, after decades of lies about Democrats?

letdogsvote

221 points

3 days ago

letdogsvote

221 points

3 days ago

Golly. It's almost like they created and fed a monster for political gain and now have lost control of it.

Who could have imagined?

IceDiarrhea

120 points

3 days ago

IceDiarrhea

120 points

3 days ago

Stephen King (the horror author) said in 2016 something along the lines of "The people who have spent years sowing the dragons' teeth of partisan politics are now horrified to find they have grown an actual dragon."

NeverLookBothWays

73 points

3 days ago

They're not "stunned."

This is their army. They have weaponized them.

Yooklid

9 points

3 days ago

Yooklid

9 points

3 days ago

Oh they're stunned for sure. They thought they'd be riding the tiger, but they just have it by the tail instead.

JimothySanchez96

50 points

3 days ago

Who could have foreseen that the white supremacist militias that make up the bulk of the MAGAhideen might want to do political violence.

baz4k6z

44 points

3 days ago

baz4k6z

44 points

3 days ago

The GOP imo is some sort of raw outrage manufacture machine. A couple decades ago they realised that hate sells very well and they've been using it ever since. So in that context, they'll embrace basically any means that they can to "win". What were seeing now is the result of this going on for decades. They created a monster and now the more enlightened among them are starting to recognize that they have essentially lost control of it, as it was revealed by the impeachment votes. It's coming to bite them in the ass.

JacksRandomFeelings

33 points

3 days ago

Echo this every time they bring up BLM riots and honestly, all the time.

"...before citing a recent poll that showed "that nearly 4 in 10 Republicans see a legitimate place for political violence in our political discourse." "

Yikes.

Boddhisatvaa

20 points

3 days ago

Yeah, holy shit. From your link...

Roughly four in 10 (39 percent) Republicans support Americans taking violent actions if elected leaders fail to act. Sixty percent of Republicans oppose this idea.

Yes, 39% of Republican voters support domestic terrorism. That combined with the result that 79% of Republicans still view Trump favorably, I'm starting to think my old .22 target pistol might not be sufficient. Might be time to go buy a bigger gun.

vankirk

77 points

3 days ago

vankirk

77 points

3 days ago

This is what happens during a cultural shift. What we see here is the last ditch effort of a dying conservative ideology; one based on how things were in the 1950s; mysogyny, racism, patriarchy. The group still clinging to old ideas is going out kicking and screaming; "cancel culture"? No, you are just a racist.

The culture is being replaced with a more diverse and progressive population. I saw it yesterday, plain as day, when I saw the first Ford EV commercial only a month after GM announced it will no longer produce internal combustion vehicles.

We are witnessing a changing of the cultural guard right in front of our eyes. The old guard isn't taking it well.

MonkeyEatingFruit

18 points

3 days ago

We just have to survive it.

Wizard_Enthusiast

11 points

3 days ago

Yeah, surviving the backlash is always the hard part.

LeoMarius

29 points

3 days ago

LeoMarius

29 points

3 days ago

GOP 2001: We have to fight terrorists everywhere!

GOP 2021: White terrorists are patriots!

woodiegutheryghost

11 points

3 days ago

We also lost the word “Patriot” to white nationalists. Neo-nazis just launched a National recruitment campaign as the Patriot Front.

jumbee85

25 points

3 days ago

jumbee85

25 points

3 days ago

As far back as I remember GOP has been talking about blowing things up. Newt was all in on that thing. The blob mouthpiece that just died was 100% on that train for decades. Then you had the Tea Party, and Trump with the MAGA bullshit.

lifepuzzler

19 points

3 days ago

"Oh no, it's exactly what everyone said would happen!" 😱

MarsupialMadness

21 points

3 days ago

"This can sometimes be a good thing—there's a reason organizations value fresh blood. But it can also be a bad thing if many of the new members are less interested in political philosophies and more interested in anger and indignation," they wrote. "Which is why, in recent months, the focus of many local GOP organizations has shifted away from solving problems and toward blowing things up."

Gee fucking wiz sherlock.

It's almost as if pumping unsubstantiated, baseless hate speech into people's brains for fifty-plus years via propaganda machines explicitly designed to make people into stupid, mentally damaged little ragebabies actually did what it was designed to do.

What the fuck did they think would happen? Enough people would realize the whole ideology is horse-shit designed to impoverish, disenfranchise and outright murder everyone but the .01% but perpetuate it anyways? And that only those specific people would run for office?

fyrecrotch

18 points

3 days ago

Uses violence to push political agenda.

Wants a singular religion.

Likes blowing things up.

Calls themselves "The Base"

This sounds familiar... 🤔

Zerostar39

136 points

3 days ago

Zerostar39

136 points

3 days ago

When your party has been hijacked by terrorists, the only course of action is to abandon your party. By continuing to associate with these extremists you are making a statement that you support what they stand for. True conservatives need to stand up and against these people.

WaluigiIsTheRealHero

79 points

3 days ago

These are the true conservatives.

geethanksprofessor

19 points

3 days ago

Judging by the numbers in the last election, the number of "true conservatives" willing to not vote for Trump are nearly too small to matter. There don't seem to be enough of them to encircle a large tree holding hands.

bexmex

14 points

3 days ago

bexmex

14 points

3 days ago

I’d argue the correct course of action would be to get the crazies out of the party you care to love... but that requires bravery, and Republican politicians are not known for bravery.

TFRek

21 points

3 days ago

TFRek

21 points

3 days ago

I keep having this flashing hypocrisy notice in the back of my mind re the right: remember how you repeatedly demanded that all Muslims denounce terrorists? Now you need to do the same in your own party.

Olorin_in_the_West

15 points

3 days ago

These rabid dogs were supposed to bark at the libs! Now they’re biting us and spreading rabies! There’s no way we could’ve predicted this!

Ghost_of_Pepsi_Past

13 points

3 days ago

Crazy stuff, my moms side is from there and they just recently became anti-vax because of the right wing propaganda around the vaccine.

ShadowYankee

25 points

3 days ago

I think Putin recognized this aspect of the Republican base, and worked hard to exploit and amplify it.

lockon345

11 points

3 days ago

lockon345

11 points

3 days ago

There was the sense from those opposed to the resolution that they did not need to be told 'what is right and wrong,' so it appears to have struck a personal nerve with some even though we carefully drafted the resolution to express an organizational message that condemned uncivil actions and not specific parties or individuals," they wrote before citing a recent poll that showed "that nearly 4 in 10 Republicans see a legitimate place for political violence in our political discourse."

These fucking idiots are actually shocked they can't control Y'allqaeda. They're still pretending ideological differences are the most important thing to those voters when 40% of the party is pro-insurrection and violence.