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Rebels? laughs in Heir to the Empire
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Sees concept art of ysalamiri It was so artistically done
It’s like poetry.
It’s stylistically designed to be that way
Grand Admiral of the Empire
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Gets my dark force rising, if ya know what I mean.
Grand Admiral Thrawn
We don't want to let that C'baoth person have his lightning, now do we
Honestly, of all the villain's throughout the expanded universe, C'baoth was the most unsettling to me. Even more the the Yuuzhan Vong and they're my favorite Star Wars antagonists
Sir yes sir!
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one
Me upvoting everything in this comment chain,
just doing my duty to the new republic sir!
See where as I want to see some vornskrs
Ah the very painful reminder that Mara Jade was not allowed to be brought into the “new” cannon.
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I'm so mad about that. It would have been so cool to see her redemption arc and her in general
I still have hope they could change that between all these new shows and the direction they're going
We dropping from the chimaera boys.
Fuck that Jedi Knight bonus mission.
Red five, standing by
Red October, standing by
Redd Foxx, standing by
Red Green standing by
Red vs. Blue, standing by
Lock S-foils in attack positions.
YOU WILL KILL LUKE SKYWALKER!!!
Dozens of Spaarti clones
I died in order 66
Let's besiege Coruscant with nothing but very few asteroid, advanced psychology and advanced stealth technology!
Oh look there's a neat Crystal Gravfield Trap over here in Bilbringi
TIE Squadron standing by for orders.
I do not require glory, just results for my Admiral.
Seriously, some people were too old / busy to watch rebels and read a book or two.
Probably the smartest thing about tying thrawn into rebels and the mandalorian is it resonates with multiple generations.
I'm gonna guess people who didn't read heir to the empire are too young, not too old.
My dad introduced me to those books. Reading the 3rd book now. It's truly the sequel trilogy that should have been made
My dad introduced me to Starwars when I was, but a child.
and rebels setup the opening conditions of the thrawn trilogy as well.
edit: minor spoilers.
Wait. Which one? Isn't there 3 now? Heir to the empire, the one with time jumps from a few years back, and the one currently in progress?
The storyline with Bendu on Atollon leads into Thrawn: Alliances, which was the trilogy from a few years back.
I haven't gotten to watching Rebels yet, and only know him from the books. My thought was "Thrawn? Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time."
FYI Timothy Zahn has released a new trilogy recently about Thrawn in his earlier years. They’re canon too. I’ve only read the first so far but it’s pretty good. If you like Thrawn you’ll definitely like it.
There's a finished, canon trilogy on his years in the Empire (from the time he joined, till the time at the end of Rebels). The newest, unfinished Ascendancy trilogy revisits a younger Thrawn in the time before he joined the Empire (i.e. his time in the Chiss Ascendancy). Only the first book is released; the second is coming in April. Zahn has future plans too, so a third canon trilogy is not completely out of the question.
Thrawn is the reason I watched Rebels, couldn't get into it at first. But it was actually good.
Thimothy Zahn is a good author
If Zahn is such a good author where was he when Westfold fell?
No my Lord Farquad, we are alone
Send out riders my lord; Duloc must call for aide!
Loved those books so much, I bought the audio books AND the new Thrawn books he's been making lately!
(The new ones are fun, I didn't like half of the one with Vader, but the others have been a blast.)
Laughs in Tie-fighter
My first introduction was Outbound Flight and Survivor’s Quest. Thrawn is one of my favorite characters.
Long live legends!!!!
I wish that became episode 7 instead. Would have been much better.
yeah, rebels didn't do him justice tbh
They did him great as a villain, but you usually dont get as much depth out of a character when they're only an antagonist instead of the protagonist.
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Darth Jar Jar
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Ehh, yeah you’re right. I mean they portrayed him correctly except in the Ryloth episode but thrawn belongs in a book. The only few times I actually felt like he was thrawn was S3E4, S3E17, and S3E21&22 he wasn’t there much in season 4 since that was mainly about Pryce and Rukh who were under thrawns control
if not Bendu and Konstantine's incompetence Thrawn would score a total victory on Atollon
That was the problem. Thrawn's whole shtick is that he is virtually unbeatable. But when you have a show like this, the main characters can't ACTUALLY lose anything important. The only way for the situation to be rectified without damaging Thrawn's character is for a deus ex machina to save the main characters.
And I think Rebels perfectly showed that. He may be the absolute perfect, best chess player, but he's no Emperor, he can't completely control the pieces.
He was unbeatable, but suddenly that rook that needed to move to h4 went for the Queen.
And then some giant space whales came from nowhere and won he day for the good guys
Confederacy of Independent Systems
He'd do better if he controlled a droid army instead.
The Mitth family patriarch even acknowledges this in the Chaos Rising book (by saying in the book what Zahn has also said about the character), that unless there is something he can absolutely not control, he'll never know more than a temporary defeat.
Ewan McGregor Rides Motorcycles
I think they did a good job of balancing “Thrawn is always right” with “the bad guy loses.” Rebels didn’t do him a disservice, we just didn’t get to see him firing on all cylinders.
It's not just "Who is Thrawn?" But "Why is she looking for him and so angry about the whole thing?"
Rebels has the answers you seek.
I just started season 3 clone wars. Give me a month
Rebels has a lot of kiddy moments but honestly really enjoyed it. The music is phenomenal, and it has a very OT feel.
I think I liked Rebels better overall, but nothing comes emotionally close to the Siege of Mandalore arc in CW, for me at least.
I liked Rebels more than Clone Wars. A bunch of people living on a space ship is my favorite thing to watch.
Rebels season 1 is worse than clone wars season 1 but rockets in quality after that, just a heads up.
Yep. Haven’t seen Rebels yet, but I knew that name.
People who have played Star Wars: Tie Fighter:
Was gonna say, I’ve never watched Rebels but I do remember him from TIE Fighter.
For the Emperor.
Death to the rebel scum.
Mean while I read the thrawn books
I see you are a man of culture as well.
I'll do YOU one better! WHY IS GRAND ADMIRAL THRAWN?
But given the end of Rebels..
WHEN IS GRAND ADMIRAL THRAWN???
How is grand admiral thrawn? is he doing good?
It seems in your anger you remembered him.
I know him, he's a friend from work!
It’s an oversimplification of events but yes.
This thread is gold
I'll do you one better, WHAT is grand admiral thrawn
Meesa Darth Jar Jar
But is Grand Admiral Thrawn?
What about the Droid attack on the Wookies?
Does Grand Admiral Thrawn is gay?
Can Grand Admiral Thrawn get preganté...?
Can adermil Tron got porgant? Halp?!
How is Thrawn formde
but HOW is Grand Admiral Thrawn
The Lord of Painal
Always where is Grand Admiral Thrawn, never how is Grand Admiral Thrawn T-T
He’s one of them aliens from the avatar movies
I mean... he's not entirely wrong
I'll do YOU one BETTER, Grand Admiral Thrawn walks single file to hide his numbers.
Big fan of Sesame Street.
Superman does good. Thrawn is doing well.
Thrawn does good too...from a certain point of view.
Long live the Empire.
Yeah maybe he just needed a hug
But no one ever asks how is grand admiral Thrawn... :(
He’s feeling a bit blue.
Yo, listen up here's a story
About a little guy
That lives in a blue world
And all day and all night
And everything he sees is just blue
Like him inside and outside
Blue his house
With a blue little window
And a blue corvette
And everything is blue for him
And himself and everybody around
Cause he ain't got nobody to listen
Thrawn had a blue Corvette headcannon
WHAT is Grand Admiral Thrawn?
For that you'd have to read Timothy Zahn!
Having just started rereading Heir to the Empire I can already tell you I wish they'd just gone with that story instead of what we got... it probably would have had been made 20 years ago though....
I just started reading the Thrawn trilogy for the first time, and I find it neat that Rebels has been able to make use of aspects of the character that Zahn wrote, such as Thrawn's appreciation of art and culture as strategic elements. Also the Chimera, captain peleon, etc. How does it work that official canon products like Rebels was able to use material from non canon expanded universe stuff? Did Zahn invent the character of Thrawn?
They can use whatever they want. Disney still owns it all, they just removed it from being “canon” for convenience. They can pull things out and declare them canon at any time. And yes, Zahn created Thrawn.
Zahn have written two more thrawn trillogis in the new cannon. thats were the parts of rebels are from
Yes, Zahn invented him and Zahn has also written updated Thrawn novels for the new canon. Technically Disney owned that information anyways, but it's nice that they actually got Zahn to come back for it.
Yes! I haven't gotten around to watching rebels yet (shame! shame!) but i know all about Thrawn from Timothy Zahn. The Thrawn trilogy was always one of my favorites
Everyone asks where/who/why is Grand Admiral Thrawn, but no one asks
I'll do you one better! Is Grand Admiral Thrawn cock the same shade of blue as his body, or is it a much darker shade of blue?
JUSTICE FOR DARTH REVAN!
Oh no, don't let the weird shippers come here, now there's probably gonna be r34 of Aayla and Thrawn because they're both blue.
The ending Thrawn deserves is falling in love with a museum curator who causes him to reconsider his appreciation for art and essentially challenge him with the central question: has your love of art aligned with your use of it to destroy the artists you admire and all the things that inspired them?
Militantly Defending Rogue One
I have never seen Rebels, but I know who Thrawn is because I've read the Timothy Zahn books lol
Everybody look at this guy! He can read!
ok but the star wars novels are generally incredible
Well, some are. I love the EU but I can admit there were quite a few books that were just duds. Looking at you, Crystal Star.
Jedi Search, anyone? Han and Chewie get trapped on Definitely-Not-Arrakis to work in a Spice Mine with killer sand worms inside, and eventually find a ship that can blow up suns, because the Empire really loves their space lasers.
Meanwhile Luke is busy mind probing people and realizes there's a psychic g-spot that makes Force sensitives punch you in the face. Also he walks on a lake of lava because he's space Jesus now.
In the next book, a main character commits genocide! But it's okay, he's super sorry about it.
Kevin J. Anderson, AWAY!
Kevin J. Anderson
Kevin J. Anderson
Man that guy's awful. I don't know how he was able to latch himself on to Brian Herbert and the Dune legacy.
Don't forget the like only female Imperial Admiral is totally incompetent and only got where she did because she was fucking Tarkin.
Man, coming off the Thrawn Trilogy with Thrawn being such a genius to the next big bad being the incompetent Daala was such a letdown.
lol for real. Daala just took L after L in that trilogy, and for the majority of the time she's supposed to be the primary villain. I don't think she did a single thing to warrant being treated as a real threat. The only actual villain worth a shit in that series is Exar Kun, and he gets offed way before the climax of the third book.
Was always funny they kept Daala around in the entire EU and every time she just took L after L. She became freaking Team Rocket.
She had one good moment - tricking and offing the Moffs she gathered - and then went right back to being totally incompetent.
That she was in charge of the New Republic in the end was hilariously bad.
yeah her taking over the GA in Fate of the Jedi was just dumb. One in a long list of reasons I don't really acknowledge the Denning books.
Darth Maul on Speeder
What did he say? I can't read
Your tastebuds can't handle flavor of this magnitude
I never read the books, but I did play TIE Fighter.
A man of culture.
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Cool, Rebels has more than just thrawn though. I mean the first season is a chore. Season 2 is only good with existing characters but some things are ruined by Ezra. Season 3 is a good season and Ezra is still annoying but he becomes tolerable. Season 4 is very good, dare I say clone wars level good since Ezra is pretty likeable, and the character development and fillers from the past 3 all play off. As well as 2 episodes that tie into the mandalorian and 2 episodes that tie into rogue one. Overall the good outweighs the bad in the show so it’s worth a try
Imo season 3 is better than season 4. Something about season 4 doesn't feel right to me, like the wolves feel weird and the mandalorian episodes weren't even that good. Also I wouldn't say clone wars quality, because if you compare season 1 of TCW to season 1 of rebels then rebels win by miles. Season 2 of rebels is also better than TCW season 2. I would say that season 3 of TCW and rebels are at the same level and season 4 of TCW is better than rebels'. So yeah its tricky to compare rebels to TCW
Ok then im not gonna try Rebels again. I grinded, but had to stop in the middle of S3 because it did nothing for me. Only character i liked was Kanan, the rest of the characters just felt too catered to small children for me to enjoy.
well, you're thru the bulk of it. And have shorter seasons,. And topics get more serious; events more connected to the original trilogy; you get some important cameos; give background for Ahsoka series.
Basically, you've come this far, why leave a hole in the storytelling?
Imagine not having read all 2.3 thrawn trilogies and the duology (third one has only one book out yet)
Isn't the 2nd one just two books?
Thrawn, Thrawn: Alliances & Thrawn: Treason
Think they were talking about the thrawn duology, the sequel to the thrawn trilogy
Yeah, I just looked it up. I meant The Hand of Thrawn duology. That was the one I read. Didn't know he was writing so many new ones lately.
People who read the comics/novels: I am 1,000 parallel universes ahead of you
Lol for real, the 15 year olds are pretending that Rebels invented Thrawn.
Me who read legend: I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you
Me, who hasn't seen rebels but has read the Thrawn trilogy: I don't have such weaknesses.
I’ve never watched rebels or read the books but I know of his existence from the empire at war game.
Ah man that game was the shit! The expansion was wild. People riding rancors and included ewoks strapped to bombs!
I do hope all of you know the song about Old Man Thrawn
If not: enjoy!
Thrawn is much older than Rebels
Why does it have to be “People who haven’t seen Rebels?” Thrawn is so much cooler in the Old EU
i see your a man of culture as well
Thrawn peaked in heir to the empire
I've never seen Rebels.... but I do know how to read.
The best question is why is grand admiral thrawn. Although most wouldn’t understand his plans.
I'LL DO YOU ALL ONE BETTER! How is Grand Admiral Thrawn?!
Yeah last time we saw him, he got bullied by space Wales and a teen seeing imaginary wolves..
People are gonna be so confused by this comment if they haven't seen the cartoon, XD
Thank fuck someone said it. Sad that you are all the way down here.
If you didn't see rebels but you read legends you still know who is thrawn
It's not about knowing who Thrawn is, it's about knowing why Ahsoka is trying to track him down and what that means for characters we might see in live action.
There are a lot of implications there that I won't spoil.
Would you be willing to dm me what you're talking about?
SPOILERS FOR REBELS BELOW.
In the first few seasons of Rebels, the crew is doing missions based on the Intel of "Fulcrum", an unknown agent helping coordinate the rebellion. Fulcrum is later revealed to be Ahsoka.
At one point, Ezra (a barely trained padawan) meets Maul on the Sith world of Malachor. Stuff happens, and Ahsoka shows up. More stuff happens and Vader shows up.
Ahsoka jumps in to save Ezra from Vader and they duel. At this point, Ahsoka realizes what (who) Vader is. They clash blades as the sith temple closes up.
Later we see just Vader walking out.
Fast forward a bit, they access the network of the living force and... Sorta time travel? Long story short, Ezra pulls Ahsoka out of certain death against Vader and they both escape to different places / times barely escaping Palpy's magic.
Eventually the Rebels clash with Thrawn more directly and temporarily disable Thrawn's cruiser. Ezra, with Thrawn aboard, warps it into uknown space.
Fast forward a few more years and we see Ahsoka and Sabine (mandalorian girl who gave the darksaber to Bo Katan) gearing up to go find Ezra.
We also see Ahsoka walk out just after Vader, into that triangle corridor. While it later turns out she gets there via time portal, we've always known she survived, just not how.
So it seems the time travel stuff was less about bringing her back and more about trying to tie Rebels in to the rest of the franchise via mass referencing.
Fast forward a bit, they access the network of the living force and... Sorta time travel?
Fast forward a bit, they access the network of the living force and... Sorta time travel?
Sorta waterskied over a ramp and flew over a shark. Why does everything need to have fucking time travel in it?
Don't even get me started on the family that lives in inter dimensional space.
Because Filoni had to save his waifu
Filoni doesn't want to kill his wifu. Like seriously, he created Time Travel clishe just to save Ahsoka. No one else. Her arc already ended, just let her go.
She's been one of the most relatable and well received characters in the franchise since Luke. I'm not saying you can't kill off your main characters, but there is still so much more you can do with her.
You also don't need to know to enjoy her appearance in Mandalorian. It just serves as a cliffhanger and setup for her story in her own show, which I'm sure will get into all of that.
All of season 2 felt like "Here is this new character/plot point, now get ready to go watch their show".
Mando started to feel like a secondary character in his own series, and was just flying around to set up new shows for other characters.
I havent seen rebels in a while, wasn’t he killed by the big space whales?
He (and Ezra) were yeeted into unknown space by space whales.
Anakin, my allegiance is to the republic, to democracy
Ill do you one better: why is Thrawn?
But nobody asked, How is Thrawn?
But when is thrawn?
Oh I don't think so
Feeling kinda blue I'd imagine.
I'll see myself out...
Where is Ezra?
The geography that I stands compares you superior
That's easy. He's the blue guy in those books they should've adapted into the sequel trilogy instead of the horrible mess we actually got.
WHAT MASTER DO YOU SERVE? ..wtf what am I supposed to say Jesus?!?!?
Haven’t seen Rebels, but did read the Heir to the Empire trilogy back in high school
I have a feeling that her show’s plot is gonna be her hunting thrown why doing mando like side missions along the way. If so I hope we figure out what happened to Ezra.
Everybody asking where is Grand Admiral Thrawn, but nobody ever asking how is Grand Admiral Thrawn
Sad Chiss noises
Me, who hasnt watched rebels: Laughs in heir to the empire trilogy.
Not to worry, we are still posting half a meme
What about the Thrawn attack on the Wookies?
Youngling slayer 6̸9̸ 66
I saw mandalorian before clone wars and rebels, but holy fuck it makes more sense it the right order lol
Is rebels worth watching